commando loves to sort of used the social wedge issues -- a man who loves to sort of use the social with issues but his own family history that would not withstand easy scrutiny. and there are many more. he is a fascinating -- it is like out of a novel. >> i will listen to a lecture about ben franklin this week. one of the greatest scientist of the 19th century, british diplomat, had a horrible family life. it is interesting. this large ego -- and i agree with charles. newt has and what of ideas and politics contributed a lot. the fact he has a rotten family life is kind of sad but not without precedent. >> what the family life. this guy has more baggage than united van lines. in it was a brilliant leader that had two mutinies and had to leave as speaker. yes, he was the architect and engineer of the takeover but obviously not an effective leader to the point where his own troops rebelled against him. >> he left behind some landmark legislation, he and clinton together. that is quite an achievement if you are an insurgent. he was a good political leader. i just don't know how shrinking a